Stylus Magazine’s Top 50 Movies of the New Millenium

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Posted 10/03/2005 - 10:20:50 AM by Snuffleupagus:
 Yay. Nice to see Amores Perros included in this list; it's definitely a more creative/daring/interesting film than half of the indie films being made in the US. But I must say that I thought Y Tu Mama Tambien to be superior. The meeting of Julio and Tenoch years after their road trip is devestating. I have not seen a movie which so well represents that feeling of Life gone by, that is to say, the beautiful, flawed and yet to be understood. Cheers to the staffers who voted in favor of these South American films.
Posted 10/03/2005 - 10:30:10 AM by jhitting:
 My top whatever that I can think of offhand list: Donnie Darko, Sideways, Mystic River (better than MDB in my opinion), Maria Full of Grace, Lost in Translation, all three LOTR's, Anacondas: Hunt for the Blood Orchid (best B-movie of the 2000's), Rabbit-Proof Fence, Kung Fu Hustle, Shaolin Soccer, Spirited Away, the Aristocrats, Fog of War, In the Realms of the Unreal, City of God, Memento, Amelie, Eternal Sunshine, Adaptation, and hell, why not throw in L.I.E. to get the hipsters salivating? Or is that too mainstream for them to enjoy? That's all I can remember offhand, what am I missing?
Posted 10/03/2005 - 11:15:37 AM by diddywah:
 You're missing Spiderman I and II. If one of these isn't featured, then this list is worthless in my eyes.
Posted 10/03/2005 - 01:17:21 PM by MEKsLP:
 Here is my top 15: 1. In The Bedroom 2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind 3. The Lord of the Rings Trilogy 4. Batman Begins 5. Lost in Translation 6. Cabin Fever 7. Broken Flowers 8. Donnie Darko (not the Director's Cut) 9. Serenity 10. Kill Bill 11. The Life Aquatic 12. Sin City 13. Almost Famous 14. The Wedding Crashers 15. Wonder Boys
Posted 10/03/2005 - 01:25:41 PM by jhitting:
 Well then the list is worthless. There's no chance in hell that stylus would ever put a movie like Spiderman on this list. They might not even do the LOTR trilogy. Although, there is the nerd factor to consider, so maybe I'm way off base. In the Bedroom is a great film. Not sure if it should be in the top 50 though. We'll see. How about X2...if we're talking action films? That was pretty much a perfect comic book flick, as was Batman Begins.
Posted 10/03/2005 - 02:24:24 PM by jacobycr:
 cabin fever is one of the worst movies of all time
Posted 10/03/2005 - 02:26:31 PM by KlausFraktal:
 1) Fight Club, 2) Donnie Darko, 3) Amelie (whoa French), 4) Anchor Man (totally funny), 5) Flightplan (saw it this weekend, it's pretty good)
Posted 10/03/2005 - 02:58:58 PM by sawinthesky:
 Nice list so far. George Washington is one of my all-time favotires. I hope to see Van Sant's "Elephant" in here somewhere.
Posted 10/03/2005 - 03:10:43 PM by wmdavidson:
 "Here’s where we’re supposed to tell you how much we disapprove of the idea of lists, how film should be each individual’s own discovery, how no one should tell you what to watch and why. Well, screw that. Life’s too short to wade through every Sweet Home Alabama in the attempt at finding a Before Sunset, so we, the long-suffering critics, are here to provide you a handy little guide." Isn't that pretty much the polar opposite of your editorial policy on music? Is Ian M. up in arms over this? :)
Posted 10/03/2005 - 04:03:44 PM by sol-rand:
 I read the list. Must have been composed by young men. All those dark movies. So deep. So complex. Hooray for filmed theatre. Very twentieth century. Maybe the best movie of the twenty-first century shouldn't be a scripted drama. Maybe the best movie of the twenty-first century should be nothing more than a montage of highlights from the twentieth century. Hey. Wait. Someone already made that movie. Bodysong. Right. That was a good one. Women giving birth. I've seen footage of a woman giving birth before. But this was different. A little more intense. I mean you either watch it or you close your eyes. My wife said that giving birth is just like taking a shit. And that's what the little critters look like when they come tumbling out, bodies totally slack, covered in filth, wrapped in bloody cords, like little drunk men who have been caught stowing away in a tiny piece of luggage. Or, as my wife says, it's just like taking a shit. Burp. Fart. Watching these clips all I could think to myself was Meat Machine, Meat Machine, I'm nothing more than a Meat Machine. Not as profound as watching a teen time-travel movie, but still. What else. Oh yeah. It goes from birth and the you watch clips of children growing up and then it starts in with the sex, like porn, like a black man with a black dick in his mouth. I remember when they cut to that image my first thought was to say I've never seen that before, so that's what I said to my wife, even though we both know that's not true, I've seen a black man with a black dick in his mouth plenty of times. So what I'm trying to say is that I couldn't not watch this movie. Especially when they started in with the snuff footage. I'm not saying that a Vietnamese man with is hands ties getting shot in the head by a supremely indifferent Colonel/Sargeant/General/Whatever is more intense than watching a bunch of oiled-up actors fake fighting in a sickly-lit basement, but it does pack quite a punch. I'm going to stop being sarcastic. You people think you're so in touch with life and how the world works and what it means to be a human because you sit in a movie theatre and much on popcorn and watch a bunch of movies that have nothing to do with anything. No. Wait. That's not true. They have to do with everything. Right. These movies are nothing more than the dreams and fantasies of people who want you to give them you money so that they can buy a Porsche. The twentieth century was filmed. Almost in it's entirety. And yet most people would prefer to sit in the dark and watch funny men with funny expressions singing karaoke. Which is fine. But don't act as if you are in touch with life or that you understand why things are the way they are. You think you've seen everything and you haven't even seen what is most common, most rudimentary, like birth and death and sickness and what is looks like when a child figures out how to exert its will on other children. I am part of a generation that has convinced itself that it knows everything, that it has seen everything, that there is nothing that can make them feel anything that they haven't felt before. The concept of cool is for scared little boys. And the choices on this list reflect that. You want to know what the most important movie of the new millenium is? The collected footage from 9/11 and the infrared footage of a man, one moment he's standing next to a truck, the next moment he's been vaporized, silently, by ammunition. This is the entertainment of the new millenium and I can't get enough of it. All of you can take your smarmy little movies and watch them over and over and crawl inside of yourself. Maybe one day you'll be on a plane and you'll be watching your favorite movie on your tiny little screen and then the plane will lose all hydraulic power and you'll come plummeting to the earth but not before someone with a camera points it at the sky and catches your plane as it begins to nosedive and you can watch yourself on your little screen, watch as the plane is two minutes from impact, and then, and only then will you understand that the cinema you so desperately cling to is an anachronism, harmless fluff, the product of Victorian group-think, an excuse for dis-engagement with what is outside your door. We are here to capture ourselves in the act of living, so that one day our civilization can be more than a myth. The movies we watch we be nothing more than quaint artifacts. They will not explain who we were or what we thought we were doing. They will only explain who we pretended to be. These movies are an archive of our delusions. But then again, that's what we love to do, trick ourselves into thinking we are who we aren't, that we live in a world that doesn't really exist. It's so much fun. Like religion. But eventually the curtain gets pulled back. And what's behind the curtain is nothing. All of this I said to my wife as we watched Bodysong. At some point she asked me to be quiet. The she asked me if we could just flip through the movie channels to see if someone else was on.
Posted 10/03/2005 - 04:29:51 PM by J.Timmermann:
 Okay, then?
Posted 10/03/2005 - 05:17:31 PM by garlad1:
 What, no Spykids 3? Robert Rodriguez is a genius I tell you. He single-handedly revived the vastly underrated careers of both Mickey Rourke AND Ricardo Montalban (no small feet, that). Plus, he can cook!
Posted 10/03/2005 - 05:20:31 PM by JustinC-L:
 Actually, I have seen birth and death and sickness. I haven't seen a child learning to exert its will on another child. But when I was teaching I did once break up a fight between first-graders by hoisting one up by his waistband. Being caught between flying Pokemon toys is harrowing. Someone should put that in a movie.
Posted 10/03/2005 - 05:29:11 PM by antizooch:
 Battle Royale is probably my favorite of 00's so far. Lost in Translation and Sideways were near perfect films. Nobody mentions Requiem for A Dream yet. Eternal Sunshine and Donnie Darko are so overrated. Fight Club came out in 99'
Posted 10/03/2005 - 07:01:30 PM by MEKsLP:
 someone tell sol-rand there are another 40 movies to go. and add Punch-Drunk Love to my list to make it 16 (and Cabin Fever seems to be a love it or hate it flick)
Posted 10/03/2005 - 07:27:25 PM by diddywah:
 " Well then the list is worthless. There's no chance in hell that stylus would ever put a movie like Spiderman on this list. They might not even do the LOTR trilogy. Although, there is the nerd factor to consider, so maybe I'm way off base. In the Bedroom is a great film. Not sure if it should be in the top 50 though. We'll see. How about X2...if we're talking action films? That was pretty much a perfect comic book flick, as was Batman Begins." It's not about covering the nerd factor, its about including what are undoubtedly two of the finest adventure movies yet made. X2 is a cold film of gloss and action, and Batman Begins was a little too laboured. Also, I hope to see Oldboy, The Return and Spirited Away somewhere in this list.
Posted 10/03/2005 - 07:54:13 PM by Zarklephaser:
 STEPHEN'S TOP 10 MOVIES OF THE NEW MILLENNIUM: 1. Memento 2. Lost in Translation 3. Closer 4. High Fidelity (It was 2000, right?) 5. Elephant 6. Requiem for a Dream 7. Roger Dodger 8. Sideways 9. City of God 10. Eternal Sunshine
Posted 10/03/2005 - 08:15:45 PM by mattmc387:
 Sol-rand's comment is one of the most shockingly stupid things I've seen posted on this site. 1. Lost in Traslation 2. Adaptation 3. Donnie Darko 4. City of God
Posted 10/03/2005 - 08:32:16 PM by KlausFraktal:
 Wow, I didn't realize my lame trolling sarcastic joke list would yield such wonderful replies. Thanks, sol-rand. In other news, you're a first class buffoon.
Posted 10/03/2005 - 08:51:11 PM by TheBrad:
 Comments are the new reviews. Didn't you know? I don't even get bummed out when someone takes a shot now; I read the comment as a standalone entity. It's real fun!
Posted 10/03/2005 - 09:29:30 PM by KlausFraktal:
 What if people start taking shots at your comment too? Hey Brad, your insights are, at best, pedestrian and I have noticed several grammatical errors in this most recent comment, as well as in several others, leading me to believe that there must be a pattern of grammatical errors that could be traced back to you! What?! NO BROKEN SOCIAL SCENE? YOU ASSHOLE!!!
Posted 10/03/2005 - 09:42:49 PM by sol-rand:
 I'm just kidding. I don't really hate these movies. I love them. And so does everyone else. Everyone likes the same movies. Except we really don't like them. Not really. I'm just kidding. I'm really just a clown. That's what I am. Hey watch this. I'm going to make milk come out of my nose. For you. Because I want to entertain you. Not really. I'm just kidding. I should apologize for being so defensive. Everyone is entitled to the exact same opinion. But I agree. Don't talk for too long. It's rude. Give other people a chance. This is supposed to be an open dialogue. So keep it short. Like a soundbite. Everyone is smart in exactly the same way. If I don't understand what you're saying it's because you're stupid. But seriously. These movies speak to me. Because I'm just like that guy. I can totally relate. I forgot to take my medication. Capitalism sucks. Not really. Kind of. I'm glad none of you can see me. My name is fake. I don't really talk like this. I just want to fit in. I'm sure the list is going to get better. Maybe I spoke too soon. I guess the more I talk the more I sound like I don't know what I'm talking about. A joke. I'm just kidding. Wait. I'm lonely. No one understands me. I don't know the rules. Did I do something. I must've done something. Please like me. I want all of you to like me. I want you to listen to me and then say something nice. I agree with him. Very thoughtful. Something like that. Don't shun me. I want to be part of your growing community. I can't stop. Hey look. I know everything. I graduated college. I wear glasses. I don't take anything seriously. I just say things and if people get upset with what I say I tell them to relax because I was just kidding in the first place. But take me seriously. Or I'll make fun of you. But not for long. Because I'm old. I don't understand young people today. They are so much smarter than they were in 1897. They know so much. That's why I'm hopeful for the future.
Posted 10/03/2005 - 11:38:16 PM by TheBrad:
 I think Klaus is ten toes over the wave of the future.
Posted 10/03/2005 - 11:40:22 PM by TheBrad:
 Also... Jeremy, is that you?
Posted 10/03/2005 - 11:59:58 PM by KlausFraktal:
 OK, it's cool. Seriously, no problem. We all get a little fired up. It's easy on the internet. You can be more honest here. Or at least, pretend to be more honest. More like who you'd like to be. Other people too. More like how you'd like them to be. Just trying to help. Really. Just worried. For you. Tough love. Sort of. Some reality would do you good. Like a tragedy. You know, real tragedy. It's not real unless it's lethal. Or unless it really, really hurts. Physically, that is. Like food poisoning. That's why I get sushi at buffets. Takes me to the essence of things. Like giving birth. Or so I'm told. Or a papercut. Yeah, that's a good one. Really real. Really really real. Not like you. Complacency isn't real. Just delusion. Like all the silly things that concern you. Empathy, love, human relationships. Chimeras, man. That's why I don't have any. Just distractions. You only get sad because you're spoiled. Spoiled and fake. Good thing I'm here to set you straight. You need better self-esteem. Have you ever thought about blabbering pompous, cliched aphorisms in the comments section of a music review? Works, dude. Trust me. You should know to trust me because of my posturing. Look, I know you. I'm inside your head, man. I've really dissected you. Consider yourself: DECONSTRUCTED. Don't worry if you don't understand that word. It's a big one. I understand. You're probably just an undergrad. I probably graded one of your papers. Speaking of which. I should probably get some more sleep. I only got four pages done on my thesis this week. Really cuts to the bone. It would blow your middle-class faux-Marxist mind, bro. My advisor said it sucks though. What's he know. I'm smarter than all these dumb kids. That's got to say something. Grad school is neat. I just read Lyotard. Couldn't wait to come home and show it off on the internet. Those plebes don't stand a chance. I wonder why my wife told me to shut up during that movie. She's kind of dumb. Only has a BA. In Psychology. That's why I just block her out. Especially when she tries to argue with me. Emphasis on tries. Real arguments are for suckers. Too easily countered. Oblivious, cryptic condescension: much better. Do that instead. People just get frustrated. Then they're easy to dismiss. Makes me look smart. What? Hypocrisy? No way, man. You just don't get it. Not like I get you. I'm not twisting your words. Just amending them. Believe me, it makes more sense that way. You just can't handle me fucking up your paradigm. The current pulls back. I've got my hand on the rope. Don't keep your eyes shut. Or do. I just contradicted myself. Why'd I do that? Don't ask. Art is dumb. Just fantasy. Victorian idealist drivel for mass consumption. Sedatives for the delerious. Mass market normalization for the unsettled surbanite. Foucault said it. Not really. But I'll say he did. Do you know who that is? No, then it must be true. You're such a stereotype. So easy to pigeonhole. It's kind of sad. You should really get off the computer. No one cares about your longwinded diatribes. Your P.C., neo-populist intellectualism. Don't worry, I'll sell you that image free of charge. Consider it a gift. From a friend. You're such a joke. So insecure. So desperate. You should drop that shit. Be more like me.
Posted 10/04/2005 - 01:55:59 AM by sol-rand:
 That's it, Klaus. You really got the hang of it. Feels good, huh? You like doing an impersonaton of me. You really let it rip. I would say that you, my friend, were on a roll. It's okay. I understand. Sometimes we find it a little easier when we use someone else's voice. You have my permission. Use it whenever you want. It's got to be better than that other voice you were using. I bet you haven't been that long winded since the time you were explaining to a friend why Before Sunset is just as good as Before Sunrise. So you're welcome. I'm glad I could be your laxative. But if I could ask one favor. Use it sparingly. Because, as you already know, it really gets under people's skin. I mean like totally. Really. Seriously. You'll be talking like me and then people will be talking like you and then it will seem as if someone has crawled into your head and made you disappear. Because you're not a robot. You're Klaus.
Posted 10/04/2005 - 06:16:00 AM by bj_randolph:
 Big ups to garlad1 for beating me to the punch on Spykids 3, far and away the best film of the last several years. As far as I can tell, all of the movies in the list so far have been two-dimensional, i.e. rubbish; hopefully they're saving the real movies for the top 10 or so.
Posted 10/04/2005 - 10:59:29 AM by Zarklephaser:
 I can't believe I'm seeing I Heart Huckabees on this list. What a fucking piece of shit movie.
Posted 10/04/2005 - 11:19:37 AM by foolsgold13:
 anchorman is garbage; elf wails on it. the only funny parts of anchorman were steve carrel's. wait, almost famous sucked too, except for the lester bangs part that was funny cus it was probably accurate
Posted 10/04/2005 - 11:21:52 AM by IanMathers:
 wm, it doesn't necessarily have me up in arms - but I hate to interrupt the pretty damn riveting flow of the comments as is so if you'd like details please email me.
Posted 10/04/2005 - 12:28:31 PM by sillyrabbit:
 I Heart Huckabees just wasn't that great. I guess the APPEARANCE of intelligence, depth and originality made you overlook the fact that none of those qualities were present. That being said, Mark Wahlberg is excellent in the film. Anchorman!?!? What a piece of sh*t. The only clever scene was the battle of the TV news groups...and that was it!!! If that movie is consistently funny enough to warrant it being one of the top 50 films of the last five years then I'll assume that "Taxi" makes the top 30, "Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo" makes the Top 20 and "Dodgeball" makes the Top 10. Why folks have decided that the tremendously UN-FUNNY Will Ferrell is the thinking man's "dumb comedy" is beyond me. I got news for y'all, the Will Ferrell/Ben Stiller/Vince Vaughn group make bad movies with jokes that could not be more lame. The idea that "it's funny BECAUSE the humor is poorly written and fails miserably", which is so popular among today's hip young movie critics, is even more asinine than the movies themselves.
Posted 10/04/2005 - 01:26:01 PM by whiteboysushi:
 I was going to post a comment here but I'm too busy searching under tables and chairs for the shards of the paradigm that sol-rand just SHATTERED
Posted 10/04/2005 - 02:10:56 PM by HydeCarby:
 Someone has got to pull a title for a new column out of this. I vote for a feature called "Meat Machine, Meat Machine, I'm nothing more than a Meat Machine."
Posted 10/04/2005 - 03:04:13 PM by jlynch:
 i will say two things in one concise self-contradictory paragraph: 1. if the Incredibles isn't on this list I'll ... well, I'll do nothing but watch it again knowing it's far and away the best superhero movie ever. 2. people have different opinions than other people - OH NOES!!
Posted 10/04/2005 - 04:29:34 PM by whiteboysushi:
 HydeCarby: might I suggest "Funny men with funny expressions singing karaoke"?
Posted 10/04/2005 - 04:30:53 PM by whiteboysushi:
 Also, "I'm Glad I Could Be Your Laxative" would be a great title for an emo song.
Posted 10/04/2005 - 05:58:52 PM by HydeCarby:
 You beat me to it! The parody as laxative was priceless. I want so badly to do something with the sweeping awfulness of "We are here to capture ourselves in the act of living, so that one day our civilization can be more than a myth" but my mind simply cannot grasp the depth of this statement. It's funny that the bassline list generated much more vitriol.
Posted 10/04/2005 - 07:03:21 PM by JohnCameron:
 TOO MANY WORDS. LESS WORDS. Anyways, I like movies. And I like most of the movies on this list. So good work so far, everyone.
Posted 10/04/2005 - 08:49:58 PM by jnasseff:
 hows about a little "Mullholland Drive"?
Posted 10/04/2005 - 09:02:56 PM by :
 Liked I that short flick called `Stnuc` from 03 about a family of hairy creatures who lock up their spirits, drill holes in themselves, bleed everywhere. It`s just a film beaming in back of my head every time I visit my bed. It`s almost like my voice is the projector relaying images onto my eyes. Please make the Stylus top 10 list I wish praying silently. It`s like, Lord of the Rings was a 3-piece, so Stnuc is 39 episodes each of only one minute`s duration. Very experimental. The DVD even comes with an odour box that emits smells while you watch. Thing is, the film`s sensitive & stimulating. It reshuffles its sequence randomly every 39 minutes. These permutations make for a seemingly endless dialogue between viewer and film-maker. When we come out of the film, we are compelled to sink back in to a new version. The film is sad I suppose but very very human! What more do we ask?
Posted 10/04/2005 - 11:19:25 PM by citycalmdown:
 I Heart Huckabees was more about the comedy than the philosophy! It was very absurdist. The acting style was really strange, and it spanned every character … did anyone else notice that? It was real yet it wasn’t. Anyway, everyone seems to forget to look at the movie for things other than its philosophical parts (its just two very simple theories which are never truly extrapolated on – it drives the plot, but it shouldn’t be over-analyzed), and instead see the movie for how fucking hilarious it is. “NO, YOU’RE THE DESTROYER.”
Posted 10/05/2005 - 12:24:18 AM by PlatypusQuest:
 Anchorman is pretty funny, but are you joking? 32? Please tell me you're joking...
Posted 10/05/2005 - 12:25:35 AM by PlatypusQuest:
 And yeah.... I would like to see Mulholland Drive top the living hell out of this list. I haven't seen a better movie in 10 to 15 years. Honestly. If I had to provide a close second, I would say Dogville.
Posted 10/05/2005 - 07:58:15 AM by KlausFraktal:
 This list started out strong but now it is starting to look like something a group of young college students would put together. Not bad, I guess, but 'AI'? The first hour is amazing, sure, but those last minutes are liable to send you into diabetic shock. Now, serious picks I'd like to see: Elephant, Mulholland Drive, Spirited Away, Touching the Void.
Posted 10/05/2005 - 09:53:33 AM by jhitting:
 Yes, Mulholland Drive...fabulously fucked up. Espresso? Napkin! And if we're talking films...does that include HBO films? I thought Angels in America was brilliant. I mean, an angel with...what was it...8 vaginas! That's what I need, a girl with 8 vaginas or 4 tits. So what else should be on here in the future? Hotel Rwanda...zzz...Kung Fu Hustle!!! Now there's a flick. If Capturing the Friedmans was as high as it was, then Fog of War should be in the top ten. Oh...and The Staircase...that was a great documentary. Welcome to Sarajevo anyone? Also, I thought Spider was a terribly boring film, too slow, too pained. It was like a Henry James novel with mental patients instead of the upper-class. City of God!!! City of God!!! Maria Full of Grace!!! Adaptation!!! If none of my films are included, at least include Adaptation, quite possibly the finest film released in the 2000's. What could be better? Nic Cage, admittedly a jackass of epic proportions for doing Face/Off and the like, in his greatest role ever? And how about Downfall! That was an excellent film if ever there was one. You cocksuckers. At least admit that AI sucked and was a mistake. Admit it. Now. I wish Haley Joel Osmond was murdered in a public square with about 200 other celebrities. And did I hear someone say that LOTR I was the only film out of the trilogy to be included! What about II? That was the best one, in my opinion. That scene where Gandalf rides down the hill followed by hundreds of Rohan horse warriors---priceless. We'll see what happens with this one.
Posted 10/05/2005 - 11:48:11 AM by keag76:
 Decent list, Almost Famous should be higher on the list. I am hoping The Sea Inside and Maria Full of Grace end up some where on this list. Also must have Friday Night Lights greatest sports movie of all time, period. Donnie Darko, three words WHAT. THE. FUCK. That movie is beyond pointless.
Posted 10/05/2005 - 11:50:55 AM by citycalmdown:
 Wait, is this list even rated from best to worst, or is it just a general list? Did you guys confer with each other about these rankings or basically just add up each other favorite movies via ready-made lists? I don’t understand how Anchorman and A.I could be considered better than Kill Bill Volume I, or how A.I could be higher than Memento?
Posted 10/05/2005 - 12:07:05 PM by NickSouthall:
 Maybe it's because PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS and this list is compiled from lists by several people all with (often radically) different tastes?
Posted 10/05/2005 - 12:36:40 PM by badhaircut:
 Your Hard Drive
Posted 10/05/2005 - 01:55:51 PM by ckramer:
 to some extent i agree with sol-rand said. and like with every stylus list ever made you guys seem to be giving us the surface treatment. why run an entertainment site if you don't like to dig? oh and the perspective on crouching tiger is kind of nauseating.
Posted 10/05/2005 - 01:59:04 PM by troysteele:
 Yeah, I also loved Randy Quaid in "Far From Heaven." Has anyone ever considered proof-reading the articles posted on this site?
Posted 10/05/2005 - 01:59:34 PM by ckramer:
 also klausfracktal brings up a good point, is stylus run by college boys? journalism majors? gotta be.
Posted 10/05/2005 - 02:37:53 PM by J.Timmermann:
 I would pay good money to see Far from Heaven with Randy Quaid re-cast in the gay husband role! Also: "Your Hard Drive" = Priceless.
Posted 10/05/2005 - 02:41:11 PM by antizooch:
 Schmidt better than Sideways??? no way! Election and About Schmidt were good but inconsistant, Alexander Payne finally mananged to balance all the things we like about his other films (the humor, the honesty, his fallible characters) and make them more entertaining.
Posted 10/05/2005 - 06:13:10 PM by :
 The mistake on the Far From Heaven blurb has been corrected on 10/05/05.
Posted 10/05/2005 - 10:11:03 PM by PlatypusQuest:
 OH! If they do decide to include HBO movies, I would have to nominate Wit. What an outstanding, heartbreaking performance from Emma Thompson. It's such a difficult movie to watch, but never less than compelling. I still can't believe it wasn't released in theaters.... for shame. Mulholland Drive for #1! I'm rootin for it!
Posted 10/06/2005 - 10:44:55 AM by PlatypusQuest:
 Well, I guess there goes my chances for Mulholland Drive at #1... Oh well.... I wonder what's left..... Dogville? In the Mood for Love? Spirited Away? All the Real Girls? OH.... Eternal Sunshine is probably WAY up there too...
Posted 10/06/2005 - 10:45:35 AM by mpatton:
 Best bests for Top 10: "Lost in Translation," "Eternal Sunshine ..." and "Sideways." I'd like to see "3-Iron," "Sideways," "All the Real Girls," "Maria Full of Grace," "Sweet Sixteen," "Sin City," "The Royal Tenenbaums" and "Talk to Her." And I am still digesting "A History of Violence." And why not have some balls and throw "Gladiator" into the mix? There is no denying that it is a great movie.
Posted 10/06/2005 - 10:51:47 AM by jhitting:
 I think these ten were intended to make everyone wince. Russian Ark? I saw that one in Chelsea in the summer of 2003 and nearly had to leave the theatre. I can respect the one take thing, but honestly...that wasn't a movie as much as it was a giant painting. And giant paintings can't act. Also, Adaptation, City of God, and Mulholland Drive should have been higher, while Ghost World shouldn't have made the list. That movie was boring and unoriginal. Props on including the Fog of War in the top 20, though. Good pick. I saw that on the DRAMA channel last night for about the 50th time and I still got misty eyed. Didn't see the Son, so I can't say anything about it. Oh Brother...forgot about that one. Good flick, worthy of the list.
Posted 10/06/2005 - 10:53:58 AM by jhitting:
 Were Gladiator and The Royal Tenenbaums in the 2000's? If so, they should each be in the top 5. Tenenbaums was my favorite Wes Anderson and quite possibly the most taut comedy I've ever seen.
Posted 10/06/2005 - 11:14:43 AM by andrewi31:
 Maybe it's because PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS and this list is compiled from lists by several people all with (often radically) different tastes? STFU bitch. Don't talk to your readership that way. It was a fair question/complaint that obviously would come up in a discussion like this. It didn't deserve some snide, tired, condescending bullshit about subjectivity. Why are you Stylus people so defensive?
Posted 10/06/2005 - 11:14:58 AM by andrewi31:
 Der Untergang should be on the list. Bruno Ganz's portrayal of Hitler is among the greatest performances of all time.
Posted 10/06/2005 - 11:40:20 AM by sakic1:
 Anyone else see Atanarjuat, The Fast Runner? That thing just blew me away.
Posted 10/06/2005 - 01:01:11 PM by hunky_dory:
 Ach, Gladiator sucks. Epics suck. Unless they begin with Lord of the Rings:. I've never understood the furor over Ghost World. Requiem for a Dream is the only film ever to make me physically ill (I don't count Jaws 4: The Revenge, as I was about 8 when I first saw it), both because of content, subject, and its freneticism, if that's a word. My votes go to Punch-Drunk Love, Dogville, The Machinist, The Royal Tenenbaums, and Tarnation.
Posted 10/06/2005 - 01:10:05 PM by J.Timmermann:
 I love The Fast Runner (and voted for it)! I *would* have voted for Downfall if I hadn't just seen it on demand, like, two nights after I submitted my list for this thing. It's currently neck-and-neck with The Wayward Cloud, however, as the best movie I've seen so far this year.
Posted 10/06/2005 - 03:01:44 PM by antizooch:
 being john malcovich was way better than adaptation! way more original!
Posted 10/06/2005 - 03:06:16 PM by Keltron2001:
 The description of City of God is horrible. A "thrill ride"???? It makes the movie sound like the new summer blockbuster. City of God is one of the most depressingly real and powerful movies I've seen in recent memory and the description mentions nothing of the sort. It mentions the humor and soundtrack but doesn't say a thing about how disturbing the movie is. I don't know if others agree with me, but the phrase "wildly entertaining" doesn't come to mind when I think of City of God.
Posted 10/06/2005 - 03:20:30 PM by KlausFraktal:
 If you liked Bad Boys II, you'll love City of God.
Posted 10/06/2005 - 03:48:46 PM by mpatton:
 "If you liked Bad Boys II, you'll love City of God." Funny and accurate. Now for the worst movie of the New Millenium: Two-way tie: "The Good Girl" and "Garden State."
Posted 10/06/2005 - 04:37:17 PM by sakic1:
 Agreed on The Good Girl...horrible. Garden State wasn't great but had its charms. I'd have to vote Napoleon Dynamite as one of the worst movies of the millenium so far.
Posted 10/06/2005 - 04:56:57 PM by dmicevic:
 I'm with Josh on the Fast Runner, I voted for it as well, which makes me wonder why it didn't make the list. I guess it must have just missed making the cut. Josh, too bad you hadn't seen Downfall in time, it made my top 10 and probably would've placed high on here if that were the case. Also, glad to see The Son so close to the top 10.
Posted 10/06/2005 - 06:42:26 PM by ckramer:
 alright, nice to see the son on here. i haven't seen russian ark! cool, finally something on here i haven't seen. yea i agree that blurb on city of god is awful, in fact there's alot of terrible writing in this piece.
Posted 10/06/2005 - 08:57:20 PM by Aaronk:
 Has anyone mentioned Talk to Her? God that movie was good.
Posted 10/06/2005 - 10:28:31 PM by bkotyk:
 Yeah, I voted for Fast Runner as well!
Posted 10/06/2005 - 11:32:07 PM by TheBrad:
 Also... is ckramer run by high school boys? journalism editors? jury's still out.

Posted 10/06/2005 - 11:56:53 PM by KlausFraktal:
 I was just reading through a few more of the blurbs and I noticed that Robert McNamara was referred to as a 'true-life Forrest Gump'. That is so wonderfully twisted.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 07:40:32 AM by KlausFraktal:
 Ah good, a solid top ten. It's nice to see the Wong get some love, though I would have placed it a little higher. And no Miyazaki? Tsk tsk.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 08:16:54 AM by PeteGuy:
 I'm staggered that RT has been voted number one. I can honestly say this would be in my top five least enjoyable films. There were at least five times while watching that myself and friend reached for the eject button such was its absurb (without coming close to funny) ridiculousness. I don't know maybe I am not 'getting it'. However, having watched - I think - 80+ of the list and agreed with their substance, watchable qualities and of course enjoyment, I find it hard to accept RT being in the list at all, let alone at number one!?! I almost feel inclined to re-watch, but the thought makes me recline with... While of course all these lists are subjective, surely a quick scan of the first 77-odd comments reveals RT lacks relevence by its sheer omission from people's thoughts and pleasure. A silver-lining?
Posted 10/07/2005 - 09:12:44 AM by PlatypusQuest:
 Oh man... I don't know how I feel about this.... I actually didn't care for Talk to Her all that much, at least, not coming off from the glorious high of seeing All About My Mother. I am extremely upset that the movie that was voted the best film of the year by Stylus in 2003 (All the Real Girls) has not appeared on the list AT ALL. I mean, Undertow was great and all, but All the Real Girls was such a memorable moviegoing experience... I can't believe it didn't make the cut. And what?!? No Dogville?!? OUCH!!!! Oh Stylus, I am so saddened...
Posted 10/07/2005 - 10:25:00 AM by dmicevic:
 Actually, I was saddened by All the Real Girls absence from the list as well. To be honest, I like it more than GW, but I guess not as many people shared my enthusiasm for it.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 10:25:39 AM by dmicevic:
 However, thank god Dogville didn't make it.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 10:56:52 AM by brente:
 notable omissions: all the real girls, waking life, secret lives of dentists, and amelie i guess. didn't the article say it went up to september 2005? i don't think anything from this year made the list though. frankly i think it's a little soon to be waxing nostalgic on the current decade. but i'd be very curious to see a list for decades past. p.s. spiderman 2 sucked big time. requiem and adaptation could have been higher. otherwise a pretty good list. props for spellbound and station agent.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 10:57:31 AM by andrewi31:
 These lists are problematic- for one, not every voter sees every film, and to a lesser degree, yes there are differing tastes out there. But they are still helpful and interesting. I'll check out a couple of these this weekend. Also, there are some good blurbs here(some not so good). I thought 'In the Bedroom' was a fairly straightforward revenge flick. Maybe there's more to it. The absence of 'Downfall!' has been explained. 'Dogville', well maybe there's are reasons people don't like this film, but they've never been very convincing or well stated. Clearly it is the most contentious absence from this list.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 12:11:14 PM by Zarklephaser:
 I'm not surprised to see Donnie Darko so high on the list, but I don't endorse it in the least. Too bad Sideways, Closer, and Broken Flowers (although recent) didn't make the cut.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 12:14:54 PM by sawinthesky:
 I'm proud to say that I've seen every single one of these films. But, I'm not as proud to say that I lack a strong social life. One Question: Where is Elephant? Here is my Top 10, for the record: 1. Elephant (Gus Van Sant, 2003)
2. Punch-Drunk Love (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2002)
3. Kill Bill (Quentin Tarantino, 2003-2004)
4. George Washington (David Gordon Green, 2000)
5. Adaptation (Spike Jonze, 2002)
6. Better Luck Tomorrow (Justin Lin, 2003)
7. Werckmeister Harmonies (Bela Tarr, 2000)
8. Before Sunset (Richard Linklater, 2004)
9. Dogville (Lars von Trier, 2003)
10. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
Posted 10/07/2005 - 12:21:48 PM by hunky_dory:
 dmicevic: Just curious, what's your objection to Dogville? I was completely mesmerized the entire runtime.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 12:31:22 PM by Zarklephaser:
 And I forgot to mention, also, that the omission of Van Sant's ELEPHANT from this list is a fucking tragedy. It should've placed in the top 10-15 in my opinion.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 12:44:30 PM by Zarklephaser:
 Still thinking. I'm surprised Ray hasn't been mentioned at all here. I thought it was a fantastic portait film.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 01:04:34 PM by stetic:
 The neo-realist scene is the most notable scene of the new millenium and it has been greatly overlooked on this list. We should have seen "Elephant," an obvious pick from the scene, but also "Nobody Knows." Am I the only one that loved this film?
Posted 10/07/2005 - 01:25:28 PM by J.Timmermann:
 I have a lot of reservations when it comes to Elephant, so I opted not to vote for it. Besides, the stuff I like best about it was copped directly from Bela Tarr, whom I *did* vote for.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 02:01:05 PM by jhitting:
 Props on RT's placement at the top. That's where it should be. Elephant--I'm glad you left it out. That film made me want to kill myself and it was about as boring as watching paint dry. I can respect Van Sant's "artistic" ability, but that doesn't excuse the film's shittiness. Overall, a good list with lots of shocks, I told you so's, and debate. Well done Stylus, though the writing sucked as usual. Maybe hire some girls next time you sexist fucks.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 02:38:36 PM by mpatton:
 "You Can Count on Me"!! Wow, I forgot about that one, as have every critic. The saddest, funniest protrayal of a brother-sister relationship. Ruffalo is perfect. OK, I sound gay. Thanks for including it ...
Posted 10/07/2005 - 06:27:04 PM by dmicevic:
 I understand that many people disagree with me about Dogville and I'm sure they have good reasons for liking the film. My main issue with it was that it took this grand theatrical concept and added nothing cinematic to it. Sure, Von Trier's bare-bones set draws greater attention to the performances, but those performances lack the vitality needed to make his purpose in any way effective. Not that it's the fault of the poor actors trapped up there on screen as much as it is the fault of the poor writing that meanders about its simplistic point for fucking three hours! After hour two, the self-indulgence real becomes apparent. Personally I think Von Trier is entirely overrated. As of yet the only work he's done that has managed to impress me was the Five Obstructions which wasn't really entirely his but a collabrative effort with his idol Jorgen Leth.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 06:30:38 PM by dmicevic:
 Oh, and I don't think In the Bedroom deserves to be recognized as a straight-forward revenge drama. To say that would be to ignore the brilliant ending that Todd Field supplies us with. All I can say is to try to watch it again, sometimes we remember things being a certain way only to find out that we've completely misread them.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 06:40:21 PM by d75cub:
 This list appears to have been compiled by a bunch 14 year olds raiding the arthouse section of their local (that means American) blockbuster video.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 06:59:18 PM by dmicevic:
 yeah, you're right. Come to think of it, it was a 14-year-old kid who recommended The Son to me. crazy.
Posted 10/07/2005 - 07:35:21 PM by AlfredSoto:
 d75cub: We DID raid the arthouse section of Blockbuster, only to discover, dismayingly, that you'd checked out everything. The cashier remembered you because you were muttering under your breath.
Posted 10/08/2005 - 03:50:59 AM by NickSouthall:
 My list was almost entirely composed of superhero movies and cartoons. I feel misrepresented!
Posted 10/08/2005 - 01:07:36 PM by ckramer:
 The Brad, yes it takes a team of 10 high school boys to run me and no unfortunately they don't have any editors, but that does mean the position is open. Interested?
Posted 10/08/2005 - 03:17:20 PM by ddrake:
 Love the list guys! But where on earth is Bad Santa?!
Posted 10/08/2005 - 04:28:30 PM by redstars1:
 Thank you... very close to what would have been my list, although there are some on here i have yet to see... this is the best one i have seen
Posted 10/08/2005 - 04:51:32 PM by bassman08:
 I think life Aquatic is sorely missing from this list.
Posted 10/10/2005 - 05:50:37 AM by wellwellwell:
 Am I the only person that remembers In America?? Great movie, great performances. I agree Nobody Knows was really good too, but not sure how many people saw it, I'll take that realism over the magazine-spread realism of Elephant any day. How about YiYi, another unforgettable film (although I can't remember what year.) . And of the cartoon bunch definitely Spirited Away deserves a spot. Bad Education was also great Almodovar. I don't get the love for Almost Famous, thought it was just a pretty standard flick, nothing special, as well as the Kill Bills. Hotel Rwanda might deserve a spot just based on the acting.